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The Blind Leading the Blind | Real Estate Training That Does Not Work! | New Real Estate Agent Training

Real estate training is some of the worse training in the world when you really think about it.  Whatever the state's minimal licensing requirements for licensure are, they do not prepare a newly licensed agent for the real world solutions. Yes there are 43,560 square foot in an acre and of course you remember the definitions of riparian, alluvial and littoral rights...don't you?  What real knowledge can a newly licensed agent use to assist a home buyer or a home seller?  The answer is none of the above!  A real estate license is a state's permission to engage in the practice of real estate under the supervision of a broker. That's all.  A newly licensed piolet does not take over the helm of a jumbo 747 and start flying hundreds of passengers to and fro across the country.  A new doctor graduate of medical schools does not immediately start performing brain surgeries.  The real world does not work that way.  All these professionals seek addition knowledge and training to become proficient enough to eventually work on their own, unsupervised.

In Real estate, a deal can be $50,000 dollars or 5 Million dollars.  A deal may represent a persons entire lifetime of savings, or a corporations total cash assets.  So what does the broker do to train the new agents about correctly taking listings at the right price only?  How do you know the potential client you are working with is motivated, and loyal? Who tells the new agent never to put a person into the car to show a home without qualifying their ability to purchase?  Does anyone advise a new agent it isn't wise to cut a commission?  Does an agent know how to perform a very accurate Comparative Market Analysis?  Would you list a home that you feel is worth 150K, and the seller want to list the home at 275K?  Well the sad reality, is no one sits down and really goes over all the possible scenarios with a new agent! 

When you really stop and ponder this point it gets very scary!  Most of the advice an agent will receive is from other agents in the office.  Since most of the agents in an office will be out of the real estate business within the first few years, and the average agent only sells a few homes a year, what advice is the new agent actually getting?  The answer is none!  "It is the classic case of the blind leading the blind!"  It is quite scary when you know this is the scenario that takes place in every city, across the country every day of the year.  How unproductive.  This is the primary reason for real estate listings expire.  Overpriced homes that should never have been listed, are listed by someone that never even gave it a thought,  A listing is not a feather in the cap unless it sells.  This is a recipe for disaster for the new agent.  It ensures their own failure in real estate.

Brokers need to take a much more pro-active part in making sure the new agents that are listed in their office have real training that ensures they are successful, and that their clients receive the best possible assistance and service.  Part of this plan would be to hook new agents up with agents that have closed lots of deals.  This could be one of the smartest things a broker can do to ensure new agent success.  Set up a mandatory mentoring program, or shadow training for all new agents.  How would this translate into our everyday life in real estate?  Less listings expiring or withdrawing, less days on market, less termination an releases for clients trying to get out of contracts for not being able to perform, and so much more.  Love to hear your thoughts!

Jim Crawford REMAX

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I got into the real estate business through my father, who is a 30+ year veteran.  It may possibly have been the best training anyone could have.  My suggestion is that newbies in the real estate business work as an assistant to a long term veteran or a heavy hitter in their market.  It is the best training I can think of that is out there.
Posted by Daniel Sundberg (Crystal Springs Real Estate) over 2 years ago
Jim, great post.  I actually believe they should require either a college degree or a lengthy real estate course, and not this 60 hour or 72 hour broker course.  It is absurd.  It is much more difficult to be a nail technician than a real estate agent.  Hmmmmm.
Posted by Boca Raton Florida Homes for Sale David Serle (RE/MAX Services) over 2 years ago
Jim, I COULD NOT AGREE MORE!!!  I was fortunate as a new agent to hook up with a real estate mentor that helped me for years.  My mentor had a stroke (I expect you remember the post I wrote about her) and I so miss being able to call her for advice.  Many of her wise words linger in my memory though.
Posted by Marchel Peterson Spring TX Real Estate E-Pro (Results Realty) over 2 years ago
Daniel I think that is very wise advice!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago

I've seen many agents experience just what you mentioned.  I was actually speaking with someone who came to our office, and they described their last offices training as "here's the desk and the phone...go to it".

I was fortunate to join Keller Williams from the start.  Their training was integral to my success.  They have free ongoing training, mentoring programs (although they're not mandatory), regular sales meetings, 2 annual conferences and even a Keller Willliams University with a ton of online training programs and paid programs you can attend throughout the year. 

Everything is of course optional, and I've seen that those who take advantage of available training, and stay plugged into their office and the support it has to offer...those are the ones who succeed.  Those who never show up are also the ones who never write a deal.

Posted by Lake Mary & Orlando Real Estate, Central Florida, Christopher Myers (Orlando Property Group at Keller Williams) over 2 years ago

Preach on, brother.  We need an apprenticeship period in real estate badly.  Won't solve all of the problems but would really help weed people out faster and help the good ones get better faster.

Posted by Leigh Brown Charlotte NC Broker/Owner (RE/MAX Signature Properties) over 2 years ago

David thanks!  I agree about hte licensure it probably takes more education by state licensure to cut hair for a $10 haircut than it does to sell homes!

Marchel Thanks!  I had several mentors!  Seasoned prefessionals that are not afraid to share their insights!  Gold bless them!

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago

I'm not certain a college degree means much anymore.  I meet people every day with college degrees who cannot spell, add a column of numbers or construct a sentence!

Do away with CE courses that are "open book" exams (or have no exam at all).  Require some regular supplementary education in addition to Continuing Education.  Create an apprenticeship period of a year (or more) where the agent is teamed with someone experienced.

Jim, I agree with your mandatory mentoring idea.  There isn't adequate broker supervision in many offices, unfortunately.

Posted by Madeline Island Realty - Eric Kodner Sells Madeline Island over 2 years ago

DeerLeigh I think everyone would be better served by it!  Including the brokers!  Wouldn't it be great to have agents working for your that produces instead of agents that just show up at sales meetings,  If you ask them a question they look like deer in headlights!  Thye are too timid to ask questions, and do not want to appear foolish that after a certain amount of time in real estate that they do not know the answers.

 

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago
Eric thank you for your insights!  I love the point of doing away with CE cources that are open book or no tests!  What a joke!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago
Christopher!  Thanks for sharing!  It is sad that that is a real life scenario in real estate everyday..."here's the desk and the phone...go to it"
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago

Five stars for a great post. I am in my first year in the business and my broker hired me on the condition that I would meet with him twice a week for one on one training. I appreciate the time and that he did not pass me off to another agent for training. I also have been grateful that he checks with me on a regular basis to see how I am doing.

I think it would be helpful if new agents were assigned a mentor for one year and we were required to complete a heavier load of CE classes for the first year.

As a new agent I think this would have helped me and all agents. I also think this type of program would lower the first year attrition rate the runs too high in our industry.

Just a rookies thoughts.

Brad Snyder

Posted by Brad Snyder (Sierra Vista Realty) over 2 years ago

Jim,

Right on the money. Some companies do offer training for their new, and old, agents, but for the most part newcomers are on their own. Same thing is going on in the mortgage business. They give you a business card, a stack of rate sheets and a cubicle with a computer and a phone. Where is the sales training? You have to do it on your own.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 2 years ago

Jim - You  always seem to have your pulse on what people think. This is a pet peeve of mine! I think Brad has a great broker! He's fortunate indeed.

I'm a new agent and never had support from my previous broker or the other "veteran" agents...they were too busy to help. I think it's a shame when the listing agent of an offer you were attempting to write has to walk you through it. That's what happened with me and I will be forever grateful to her. What a blemish to have on the office I left.

Posted by Linda Scanlan (A Fan of AR) over 2 years ago

Esko thanks! comers are the life blood of real estate, yet 80% leave real estate every few years.

Linda thanks!  More often than not, the scenario that seasoned agents deal with is a badly written contract...then the agents need to get brokers, and lawyers involved to save the deal.  It is too late for this!  Confidence is already lost on all sides in the abilities of each other!  The eventual scenario is that the deal usually falls apart as buyers, or sellers hit an impasse.  It is a total waste of everyones productive time.  When you are in the midst of a bad deal like this it is almost impossible to do any new business.  You are consumed to correcting the wrongs.  There is not reason for this whatsoever!

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago
This is so true! There are so many agents wandering around without a clue and practically begging for someone to help them!
Posted by Lisa Hill (Daytona Beach Real Estate) (Florida Property Experts) over 2 years ago
Lisa I really know in my heart the broker is the one to be pointing the new agent in the right direction.  If not, the agent should find a broker that will.  There are loads of great brokers out there!  They'd really appreciate a really good agent to take under their wing!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago

Geez I hated giving you those 5 points... again.  It's going to be a serious task to unseat you as #1 in GA... but I digress. 

I gave you those points (again) because you deserved them.  I have been feeling for a while that agents need to apprentice into the business.  In fact, I think that the NAR should take the lead on it.  Let state licenses be easy to get, but make NAR membership really mean something.   

Posted by Lane Bailey - REALTOR & Car Guy (Diamond Dwellings Realty) over 2 years ago
Lane what a great thought!  NAR should be increasing the benchmark that it takes to be a member!  It will take quite a while to accomplish this!  I lead the charge at NAR to change the Code of Ethics since 2001 to include the Internet.  It only became incorporated this year. 
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago
Very well said.  I train agents in my office on practices I implement myself.  They are proven basic things.  The big problem is most agents, even if you give them the tools, will not utilize them.
Posted by Adam Brett - Fullerton, California Realtor (RE/MAX NOC) over 2 years ago
Jim, your right and the best thing a new agent should shop for is a broker who loves to teach, which I am blessed to have.  The little phone call about the unexpected thing you found on final walkthrough or the email about how to phrase a contingency right are where real training begins.  Find a broker who is willing to devote time to you, not just him/herself.
Posted by Realtor at (Your Family Realty LLC) over 2 years ago

Adam isn't that sad?  Maybe some like to just play "Dress up real estate!"

Ron  well said! "Find a broker who is willing to devote time to you, not just him/herself. "

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago
Jim you are right on the money.  I tell people that the real estate license only gives them the right to become a student, nothing more.
Posted by Randy L. Prothero - Hawaii REALTORĀ® (Century 21 Liberty Homes) over 2 years ago
The best thing that can happen to a new agent is to be able to have a great mentor.
Posted by Sharon Simms St Pete FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS (ALVA International, Inc.) over 2 years ago

It's a 5'er. Great post Jim. I stopped teaching agents because the Principle broker I worked for wanted me to teach them how to take a listing at any cost. And how to write more offers by convincing buyer's to write low ball offers.

I walked out of the office and quit. They were just moron's and were raising idiots that I would have to work with over the coming years untill they finaly went out of business.

 

Posted by Downtown Portland Real Estate Broker~Herb Hamilton (RE/MAX Preferred Inc. Realtors) over 2 years ago

Jim,

You are SO correct - our state licensure course contained very little information that applies to what we do day to day.  Finding a broker who is approachable and actually interested in the success of their agents is a difficult task for a new agent.  I finally found a broker who supports me and is interested in my success and it has made a big difference.  

Posted by Rita Taylor | Sanford NC Real Estate & Homes for Sale in Sanford North Carolina (Century 21 Southern Realty) over 2 years ago

Randy  Good point....a "..real estate license only gives them the right to become a student, nothing more."

Sharon I like that a lot!  "The best thing that can happen to a new agent is to be able to have a great mentor."

Herb that is the key you are a man of high standards and principles!  Toothers it is about crunching numbers,

Rita day to day in real estate is so different than a class that has nothing to do wiht the real world of real estate.  Ethics, drafting a contract, taking a listing, negotiation skills etc...

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago

Jim - great post and sadly true.  I had the very good fortune of being mentored through my first three transactions (of course, this came with a price tag from Big Broker Brother).  But, in my case, it was money well spent.  My mentor ended up getting her broker's license and starting her own company.  She was smart, funny, optimistic, honest, and all-in-all, a great person to learn from and aspire to become.  I am still friends with her until this day.

I see your point, though.  Most agents aren't that lucky and many of the brokerage houses out there don't adequately prepare them for the road ahead - either as agents or business owners.  Even appraisers have to apprentice for 2000 hours before they can become licensed!  Hopefully, this will change as the business model changes.

Posted by Irene Morales Ward, Realtor, ABR, e-Pro Northern Virginia Real Estate (REMAX Distinctive Real Estate, Inc.) over 2 years ago
Irene well said.  You brought up an interesting point...business owners.  Very good food for thought!  Success cannot just be purchased.   A business plan, and goals have to be considered.  A plan isn't...I have a real estate license, I sell homes! 
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago
I think thye have recently been changed or are are being chenged.  Hey with million dollar club they can collect welfare.  LOL!  Just kidding!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago
Even Mentor programs I have seen are ineffectual.  There's nothing that compares to having a personal training time with an experienced agent who is willing to share with you. 
Posted by Jeff Geoghan MBA, Green - Lancaster PA Real Estate Expert (The Jeff Geoghan Realty Group, Coldwell Banker Lancaster PA) over 2 years ago
Jeff I agree.
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago

Jim - I wrote about this recently as a 2-part blog about the reasons that REALTORS leave the business.  The training, for the most part, is a joke.  Getting a real estate license is easier than getting a driver's license.  For as long as the states keep using the same ridiculous test, we will have the blind coming into the industry and learning from the blind or worse.  Much of the training revolves around FSBO's and Expireds.  It's an easy thing to tell the new agents to go do.  Of course, most won't be successful at all, and they'll leave the business just in time for a new agent to come in and keep the cycle going.

Posted by Adam Waldman - Long Island REALTORĀ® (Westcott Group Real Estate Company) over 2 years ago
Adam how true!  There really is no training.  The system we currently have is designed to create losers!  Sooner or later there will be no more to train!  People will not want to be in real estate, and we will be stuck with more than out fair share of one deal wonders!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) over 2 years ago

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