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Where Did All the Really Big Agents Go?

"When the going gets tough... the tough get going!"  I was at a company mixer the other evening in Atlanta, and was talking to some very successful agents that were in the Atlanta real estate market much longer than I have been!  It was interesting to talk with locals that have seen good and bad times and reflect on the industry and the changes we all saw!  It was more than reminisicng, we were taking stock of the current market and where it was going!  Recently we had a whole bunch of real estate offices close!  In the past it was entire companies that dissapeared! Nothing stays the same forever.  Companies like Merrill Lynch, Buckhead Brokers, Northside Realty to name just a few were a major part of the Atlanta real estate landscape and have disappeared into obscurity!  So too have many of the really big real estate agents, and their teams!  These were real estate names that were almost household words!  Through billboards, mailings, newspapers, and cold calling and classifieds everyone knew their names!  You know the ones that dominated everything!  At awards ceremonies they picked up every possible award, and left no trophy left to claim for the "Johnny come lately!"  The question is now, where are they and what happened to them?  Where are those superstars now?

High overhead, and top heavy marketing has claimed a lot of unsuspecting victims with big egos that did not see this downturn coming.  They kept spending like a sailor on a spree at shoreleave!  Some of the big names no one knows what happened to them, a few are no longer living, a few... have died of suicide!  The scary thing is that some of these were indeed very successful looking at least on the outside!   Now I think differently about them!  Oh and the one that everyone forgot about was the one big agent we all competed with - who is in jail for 10 years for fraud!  It is interesting to sometimes sit back and reflect and see that sometimes success is elusive, while for others that have a small operation, and watch their expenses are still doing OK.  They are making good money, and paying the bills.  The difference is that they left their egos at the door!  Longevity, and success are planned destinations in the life of a successful real estate agent!

Jim Crawford REMAX

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Jim, I think this is an interesting observation. Although I don't think that all big team, "superstar" type agents had super big egos, just a drive and willingess to invest more money, time and blood.
Posted by Seattle Real Estate|Colleen Fischesser| |Short Sale Specialist|So King County (RE/MAX Select R.E | Designated Broker/Owner) about 4 years ago
Jim, as you know it's net income that matters, not gross sales volumes as many of the "Really Big Agents" enjoy advertising in their glossy magazine ads that do nothing but make their names known to other Realtors.
Posted by Brian Block -- Northern Virginia & D.C. Real Estate (RE/MAX Allegiance, Managing Broker/Branch Vice President) about 4 years ago
Its is tough for big agents in this market...everyone can say market more but if they are not getting sales there overhead is going to put the lights on for them.
Posted by Chuck Carstensen (RE/MAX Results) about 4 years ago

Jim,

This post contains more than a mouthful of truth!!! Thanks,   Fran

Posted by Fran 'The Title Man' Gaspari Title Insurance-PA & NJ (Patriot Land Transfer, Inc.) about 4 years ago

Maple Valley WA Broker/Owner Colleen Fischesser 425-432-5400  To me it is all about what your net.  If you have 25 people working for you and you are making 25 million a year in sales, you have 25 $1 million dollar club members. Kind of pathetic.  Agents that are personal friends of mine have shared with me their total over hear is over 65%.  Not too smart.  Why not be a 1 person or 2 person team and take home some real money without the BS?

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
Brian Block -- Northern Virginia & D.C. Real Estate  Perhaps to them it is the "Illusion they are successful!"  Show me the money!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
Hi Jim,  Very well thought out and presented post.  Prudential and Keller Williams closed in our area.  Lots of agents left scrambling !
Posted by Bill Gillhespy Fort Myers Beach Realtor Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos (16 Sunview Blvd) about 4 years ago
Chuck Carstensen  The overhead in this market for too many listings and fewer sales is a 'death knoll!"
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
Fran 'The Title Man' Gaspari Title Insurance-PA & NJ   Thanks!  It was an eyeopener when we are speak factually with others in the business.  Sometimes we are so busy futhering our own business, that we never stop to look around.
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago

ExtinctionBill Gillhespy Fort Myers Beach Realtor  Times like these make you really stop and pause.  In the Atlanta area in my neck of the woods there should be someplace in the area of about 500 homes close a month. I am in the northside of Fulton county Georgia.  Areas 13, and 14 in our MLS.  FOr the last few months, the monthly average for sales is only about 150 combined.  We should be about 250 sales per area.  So 150/500?  How many offices can pay the bills, the rent?  How many agent can survive off of so few sales?  I am not pessimistic, but informed with facts.  I am very much into statistics, competition, and odds of success!  Now we know how the dinosaurs felt when the meteor hit the earth!

 

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
its a tribute to you Jim! Your Still standing tall in atlanta - stay tough!
Posted by Steve Harless "Your Las Vegas Real Estate Connection" (Haines & Krieger Realty - 702.217.1680) about 4 years ago
I agree.  Our Re/Max here has shrunk to one office, and I think our local CB, which had three, is down to one as well.  Reducing overhead is going to be the difference between winning and losing.
Posted by Melina Tomson, M.S. Principal Broker/Owner (Tomson Burnham, llc Licensed in the State of Oregon) about 4 years ago
Steve Harless  Standing but not tall!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago

 Melina Tomson, M.S. Salem Oregon Real Estate Specialist  I think our company has consolidated a few offices, and the number of agents are down.  Many agents have hung their license with low overhead companies thinking this is a temporary slowdown.  I think that moving to those offices...those agents have just left the business whether they know it or not!

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
Brokers really do have lots of overhead these days.  I'd hate to be paying just for the copies made daily in our office.  Being a RE/MAX franchise, however, makes it easier if the broker can get the agents to pay for their office rent.  I pay my share for him but don't envy his obligations.
Posted by Barbara S. Duncan, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) about 4 years ago
Jim, this is true for several of the big team agents in our area.  People, even agents ask what happened to so and so?  Some of those people burned so many bridges on the way up, they are having a time in todays market.  There are still a few out there, but it does seem a bit different.  Thought provoking.
Posted by Audrey June-Forshey, GRI, Gaithersburg, MD (RE/MAX Realty Services) about 4 years ago

Jim, thanks for your post. I see larger companies closing and small ones popping up daily. Likewise some small companies have shut their doors.

Posted by Jacqueline Dyson (Dyson's Mobile Notary Service) about 4 years ago

I spoke with an agent a few days ago who didn't want a million dollar listing because they didn't have enough money to market it.  I think a lot of people are struggling.  I also thing a lot of the "big" names are still trying to do business like they did 10-15 years ago.  Great post!

Tina in Virginia

Posted by Tina Merritt - Virginia Real Estate (Nest Realty) about 4 years ago
Barbara S. Duncan ABR, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR   I could not do brokerage at that level!  My hats off to brokers!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
Audrey June-Forshey, GRI, Gaithersburg, MD   Put it this way!  I wish them all well!  They made the rest of us strive to achieve what we did!  A lot of them are doing very well, but many are off the radar!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago

Jacqueline Dyson  The small companies are just that!  Small companies.  They are a a 'ship passing in the night!'  Many of them will also pass away!  Many of them can least afford the overhead and comply with state license law!

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
Tina Merritt - Virginia Beach Real Estate  You brought up an excellent point.  Not only have times change the way we do business has changed!  Internet, Blogs, emails, drip marketing campaigns etc.  If we resist the new mediums we are doomed to fail!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago

Jim, I agree, a little humilty goes a long way.

Abacus(www.AbacusPropertiesInc.com) is doing quite well and frankly, growing! We are a virtual office company that can let our agents keep much more of their hard-earned commission.

Posted by Abacus Properties Inc. about 4 years ago
Kathy Low  Great!  I am a virtual person!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago

It doesn't take long of being overhead heavy for things to start to get a little tight.  There are a couple here that spend between 15-20% of their gross on just the newspaper alone.... and that's before paying a bevy of assistants.  Not a smart business model if you ask me.

Posted by Fairbanks Alaska Real Estate Specialists Jesse & Kathy Clifton 907-328-9328 (Jesse Clifton & Associates, REALTORS®) about 4 years ago
Jesse Clifton, Broker Associate  It isn't a smart model.  In good times their head are just above water, and when times change it is next to impossible to shovel off the debt!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
Jim many are gone. I have never been the biggest and don't plan on it. I have a successful business model which I have remain in business for the last 23 years. This is one of the hardest years but I will survive. Many of the house hold names Realtors here are selling their big trucks and downsizing. I don't have to sell a truck because I never had one. I rather be a big fish in a little pond as the old saying goes.
Posted by Frank Rubi New Orleans | Kenner | Slidell (Frank Rubi Real Estate) about 4 years ago
Jim many here are gone as well. Those still in business have down sizes, sold their Ad trucks. I have always had the notion to be the biggest fish in a little pond.
Posted by Frank Rubi New Orleans | Kenner | Slidell (Frank Rubi Real Estate) about 4 years ago
Jim, this is a great post and we have noticed the same thing in our area as well.
Posted by Patty Carroll about 4 years ago
Jim, this is a great post and we have noticed the same thing in our area as well.
Posted by Patty Carroll about 4 years ago

Jim,

I some what agree with what you had to say. I have been one of those agents you have talked about, with the trucks and the large teams. You have to watch the business like a hawk. I saw our numbers here in fall of 2005 starting to slow down (Northern Kentucky, across the River from Cincinnati) and starting downsized the spring of 2006. I still got hit some but had got my expenses down by 50% and got down to bare essientials and doing business the old fashion way "You EARN It"

Belly to Belly

 Eye to Eye

What I have seen is that most agents don't watch the MLS everyday.

If you watch the MLS everyday, it is just like the stock broker watching the DOW Jones.

It will tell you after a short period of time what the market is going to do, yes there are other things that come into play, jobs, interest rates, etc..

But that MLS will talk to you and numbers don't lie.

I think that the change in market for us LIFERS in the R.E.Business is a good history system for us to remember for when the next time it comes around and it will.

Sharpen the AXE! Get the Education you have been thinking about!

Get your technology up to date!

Learn something about your computer everyday!

Learn something about your MLS you did not know!

Write 5 "Thank You" notes a day

Call 5 past clients a day

Call 5 Sphere of Infulence a day

By just being plain active, you will run into business.

 

Jim, Enjoy your article and keep up the good work, BTW What part of Atlanta do you sell in?

MRMIKE 

Mike Parker - CRS

HUFF REALTY

Northern Kentucky

Posted by Mike Parker (HUFF Realty) about 4 years ago

If sales are down 50% and not forecasted to recoup anytime soon, then it stands to reason at least 50% of the real estate agent machine will disappear as well! Yes, those slow to adapt go the way of the dinosaur!

Just like newspaper RE classifieds... the RE slowdown and CL iare killing the newspapers as well!

How many of "todays" builders will be around in 3 years! Kind of scary! Too many want to continue to "build their way out of this problem"!

Jim, You can have the last laugh by offering some of the former high profile  superstars a position at your firm and telling them they will have to earn it to stay!

 

 

 

 

Posted by Phil about 4 years ago

Frank Rubi Louisiana Real Estate-Homes for Sale   It is interesting, and it will be more interesting as this market unfolds.  There are normal dips and dry spells, this time it seems a lot deeper!  If I drive down a street in our area that was once dominated by very successful agents...the streets are now littered by agent names and company signs that I've never heard of!  Quite a change in a very short period of time!

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago

Patty & Scott Carroll - RE/MAX, Vancouver WA  I do not think it is limited to any one area. The national Association of Realtors almost doubled the amount of agents in 6 years!  725K to almot 1.45 Million.

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
MrMike Parker  We think alike!  I have pared expenses, finished education courses, embarked on several new Internet marketing ideas and more!  I work the North Atlanta suburbs!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago

PHIL  The interesting thing about Independent subcontractors  we all do our own thing!  My thing is Internet marketing.  24/7/365 and not worrying about the price of a gallon of gas because I refer out a lot of our work!

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago

Nice post. I like your concept of 24/7/365 marketing. I have been thinking of refering out buyers who are not from close by.

 

Posted by GITA BANTWAL, REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI BUCKS County & Philadelphia, PA HOMES (RE/MAX Centre Realtors) about 4 years ago

GITA BANTWAL, REALTOR BUCKS COUNTY, PA HOMES  The reality of the "24/7/365 marketing" is that there are not as many buyers out there in this current market.  The good news is that I have plugged up a lot of Internet marketing holes that existed!  I have very good web position, and poised to capture buyers on every search when the market starts to move again!

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
Jim, I think a few of the "big" hitters, certainly  not all, are one hit wonders. They don't build relationships, which is what are business is all about. I've worked with a few top producers in my day that go in for the kill, and it's off to the  next one. If we have relationships with our clients, our jobs are so much easier. They seek us out, we don't have to seek out the business.  I agree with the 24/7/365 marketing on the internet! Print advertising is becoming a thing of the past in most areas.
Posted by Elizabeth Cooper-Golden Huntsville AL MLS - (Huntsville Alabama Real Estate, (@ Homes Realty Group)) about 4 years ago
Huntsville, Alabama Real Estate Agent Elizabeth Ramsey Cooper   Elizabeth, you are so right it is just as you mentioned..."relationships with our clients"
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago

Jim,

I get calls from some of those biggies asking me what I'm doing to stay in the business....I already told you my secrets but I think what happend in they were used to selling those very expensive properties and spending all that money on the nicer luxury's in life...I guess they got spoiled because they can't wait for the big sale and have the other things they had that they are hiding from the repo man. My suggestion is take any deal you can such as rentals or little deals...at least they close and you can survive. The others were arrested for conducting business with the wrong people.

Posted by Neal Bloom-Realtor ®CRS-Weston FL Real Estate (Keller Williams Properties, Weston FL) about 4 years ago

Hi Jim.  Interesting to see it affect the big guys, not just the wee little ones like me:)!

I liked your comment about us all doing things differently.  I like our flexibility to do things OUR way.

Ken

Posted by Ken Tracy Naperville Illinois Real Estate (Keller Williams Infinity - Naperville) about 4 years ago
Jim, thanks for a well thought out post, yes i agree that the superstars that are spending most of the money they make on advertising and self promotion may be in troubled waters--bart
Posted by BART WHITMORE REAL ESTATE Agent (Keller Williams- Louisville) about 4 years ago
Ken Tracy, RE/MAX - Naperville Illinois Real Estate It is like it say in the Bible...we all have our talents!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
 BART WHITMORE REAL ESTATE CONSULTANT  I think that this current market has caught many off guard.  I have been writing about the market shift since 2004, and my seminars are about cost cutting, and net profits!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
Yes, I always say that hardwork pays off and that's what you need in this type of market! 
Posted by Judy Greenberg- Coldwell Banker- Buffalo Grove- Long Grove Homes for Sale (Coldwell Banker Buffalo Grove- 350 Half Day Road ) about 4 years ago
Judy Greenberg- Coldwell Banker Long Grove/ Buffalo Grove Real Estate  Hard work does pay off, we have to just remain patient!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago

Real Estate is like searching for gold in the 18th Century. People come in this profession without education, ethic and they expect to make lots of money. Wrong concept...

Posted by Iriana Shiyan (Iriana Shiyan) about 4 years ago
Irina Fernandez I totally agree! Yes they pay us big, but we earn every cent!
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago
consistency, relationships and ethics will get you a long way - thanks for the reminder
Posted by Thesa Chambers, Principal Broker Licensed in Oregon, with (Prudential NW Properties Sunriver) about 4 years ago

Central Oregon Real Estate | Thesa Chambers, Broker  So true!  Some friends of mine that are excellent and very big are hurting, but because they have always run real estate like a business they are doing OK,a nd they will survive because they look at this practically.

Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Paramount Properties) about 4 years ago

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